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14 February 2015 @ 10:21 pm
Not sure if this is for real.  
My favourite watch has a huge two and a half centimetre face which I can *just* read without my glasses, making it perfect for weekends. It badly needs a new watchband, though, so I hunted about on ebay until I found one that I liked. I watched it for a couple of days, then emailed the seller to ask a question. Once she replied I placed a bid, and within the space of 12 hours I was outbid. I increased my bid by a small amount but was immediately outbid again. At that point I walked away from it.

The auction ended today, with that other bidder being successful. Within two hours of the auction ending I had a "second chance offer" to buy due to either the original bidder failing to come good with the cash (within that time frame, for such a small amount, highly unlikely)or the seller having more than one (she has no other items listed for sale). When I had a look at the highest bidder, the watchband was the first thing he/she has ever bid on.

It just feels as though the seller set up a new profile just to bid on this and drive up the price, then came unstuck when I didn't continue to bid. I don't know if I want to buy this now, as a result. And it's not the first time this has happened. I was outbid on a wallet once; when I received a second chance offer for the first one I ignored it as I'd already bought one elsewhere. The original seller actually sent me an angry message when I failed to act on the second-chance email! Bit rude.
Has anyone else experienced this?
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mrua7mrua7 on February 14th, 2015 12:33 pm (UTC)
I've only bid on Ebay twice and both times was put bid at the last second. Decided I don't like this bidding thing. I know the site monitors for people trying to drive up the bidding, and it's in their rules that it's not allowed. Don't know how closely they monitor, but probably do it on the expensive items up for auction.

Ebay bidding is definitely not for me...
miwahni: Cats Not Happy Janmiwahni on February 14th, 2015 12:40 pm (UTC)
I've had a mainly positive experience with ebay over the years (just checked when I created my account - it was 3rd March 2000) but this just raised my hackles.
byslantedlight: BD bah humbug (Norfolk Dumpling)byslantedlight on February 14th, 2015 12:34 pm (UTC)
Oh yuck... Its been ages since I've used ebay much, so I've not had it happen. I've seen people complaining about buyers who let them down, I guess. It does sound a bit dodgy, but I suppose I could imagine it happening either genuinely or fraudulently... But then your other experience, where you were shouted at for not taking the second change sounds way beyond wrong - what in the world was that about?!

Okay, too many buts above. Ultimately... I think it's the timeframe of the thing that makes it sound wrong. Two hours isn't enough of a chance to give the winner - even if they changed their mind immediately after bidding, you'd think the seller would have to go through enough faff about it that it'd take longer than that to sort out. And if the seller had more than one of the item, then she should have said so to start with, so that doesn't seem very honest either. And if she's not been honest about those things, has she been honest about the item itself, and/or will she be honest in the rest of the transaction? I think if it was me I'd back off - unless it's the kind of watchstrap that's really hard to get hold of, and that makes it worth taking the chance!

I'm no help, am I..? *g*
miwahnimiwahni on February 14th, 2015 12:44 pm (UTC)
I think it's the timeframe of the thing that makes it sound wrong.
That's what raised my suspicions, too. If she'd left it a couple of days it would not have seemed so odd.
Watchstrap is a bit difficult to get hold of, in that Fossil stopped making the type that threads through the watch and no-one else seems to make them either, but in the spirit of cutting off my nose to spite my face *g* I think I'll pass on this.
ali15son: pic#123385269ali15son on February 14th, 2015 01:57 pm (UTC)
i think this appears quite regularly on ebay. i have found some things that i have bid on for lewis collins to be , well lets just say , it seems like some one making a second account just to push the price up because once i stopped bidding , i then seem to be given a second chance ..i find that quite odd to be honest x
a honeyed wine at night: stubbly Doylemoonlightmead on February 14th, 2015 04:18 pm (UTC)
See my reply below for the full story, but from what I have learned today, I would say don't bid until the very very end of the auction. Because yes, the earlier you big, the earlier they have a chance to drive the price up.
miwahni: Sherlock Keep calm and trust sherlockmiwahni on February 16th, 2015 11:36 am (UTC)
It's annoying, too, as well as seeming odd. Mead has given a good explanation of what's going on. I use the "buy it now" button usually, if it's available, because at least then you don't end up in a bidding war with someone.
Strike while the irony is hot: [EMATE] CUPPAdraycevixen on February 14th, 2015 02:46 pm (UTC)

I've never bid on anything on ebay but a bunch of mates have and have reported nothing but happy experiences.

I'm sad to read this because it does indeed seem very suspicious particularly given that a watchband wouldn't be an expensive enough item to have someone have second thoughts I shouldn't think.
miwahni: Pros I need a holidaymiwahni on February 16th, 2015 11:38 am (UTC)
My good experiences definitely outnumber the bad ones but things like this take the gloss off. And yes, the band was only $12, we weren't bidding on sheep stations.
a honeyed wine at night: leafy drinkmoonlightmead on February 14th, 2015 04:17 pm (UTC)
I hope you don't mind, but I read your post out to my OH, who uses Ebay very regularly. I got to the line 'I had a "second chance offer"' and he immediately interrupted to say 'Scam. It's them.'

He went on to say it's a known problem, and that he and almost everyone he knows who uses Ebay never bids until the last minute of the auction, because if you bid earlier, someone will always come and bump it up.

He's not joking about the 'bid in the last minute', either: apparently the trick is to be in the last 60 seconds - or, if you are a serious Ebayer, the last 40 or even the last 20.

So yes, you were right to be suspicious, and OH added, if they pull that trick, you can't trust them - what exactly are they selling, will it be as described etc? - and should never pick up on the second-chance offer. Next time, wait until the last 60 seconds.
ali15sonali15son on February 14th, 2015 04:28 pm (UTC)
thankyou but i learned my lesson by that and now like you say only bid at the very last seconds....sometimes i have been lucky but even then leaving it to the last seconds i have been outbid ..though i have to say when i do win i am bouncing off all four walls *g*
miwahni: Random Computer says nomiwahni on February 16th, 2015 11:44 am (UTC)
I don't mind at all. I didn't realise it was a well known scam, and thought it was just someone having a lend. I'll use the "buy it now" button if available, if there's something I really want, just to make sure I get it. It's good advice to bid in the dying moments; unfortunately I'm rarely able to be online when an item is about to close.

Definitely not taking up the second chance offer though. Good luck to them selling it next time. I