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27 November 2016 @ 12:00 am
It's Trek, Jim....  
I finally got to see Star Trek: Beyond tonight and I'm pretty happy with it - it's about as close to the original as you could get. Loved the character interaction, and the whole plotline. Sure it wasn't perfect but it was good enough. I'm wishing now that I'd seen it at the cinema, for the large screen effect.
And no lens flare! Yay!

Loved Scotty and Bones both in this one, they really got to shine. Still not 100% happy with Spock's characterisation, though. But I guess it's getting better.
 
 
 
Fiorenza_afiorenza_a on November 26th, 2016 02:42 pm (UTC)


Spock's characterisation was always going to be difficult, you're effectively playing two people - Spock and the man who brought him to life. To his much voiced regret, Leonard Nimoy just owned the part too effectively. The way all Bonds have to win their spurs against Sean Connery.

I always thought Unhura would be the bigger ask, because there's no way of replicating what she represented in an apartheid America - but I think Zoe Saldana does a good job of translating her pride and indefatigable nature. She's compared with Kirk a number of times in original canon - in my opinion, with just cause.

You're also going to have the essential dichotomy that Spock in the original first series lived in a 'self made prison' - later we learn he's married, but we never see that part of him unfold.

I've never seen why he couldn't hold down a relationship with a non-Vulcan, his Mother is non-Vulcan and he's seen his father successfully navigate those complexities.

I liked the way Kirk got a kick up the bottom in the previous film, I was concerned that his essential gravitas was losing out to boyish pranks. Kirk is easy enough in his command to allow himself a little frivolity, but he feels his responsibilities, often willing to die for them. You can't dismiss that essential core.

It was poignant to see Anton Yelchin reprise his role as Chekov and I thought the moment's tribute to Spock Prime was well done.

My Bessie mate liked this film better than Into Darkness, which she thought was too biased in favour of action sequences.

I don't have the DVD yet - but Christmas is coming, so it may be in my stocking!

Edited at 2016-11-26 02:44 pm (UTC)
miwahni: ST Spock logical & sexymiwahni on November 29th, 2016 11:09 am (UTC)
You're also going to have the essential dichotomy that Spock in the original first series lived in a 'self made prison'.. yes, and I would like to see that internal conflict again. The new Spock seems so much more at ease in his own skin; it diminishes the character's appeal in my eyes.

Uhura is brilliant,I've always loved her character and I think Zoe does a great job.

I have to agree with your mate, too - as much as I adore Benedict Cumberbatch, the second movie was too much action and not enough plot.

It WAS poignant, watching Anton and knowing what happened.

I hope St Nick is kind to you this year and the DVD turns up. *g*
Merlin Pendragon: ST - K/S - men in tightsmrlnpndrgn on November 26th, 2016 07:34 pm (UTC)
I saw it on Imax when it came out here. And I did love it.

Way more than "Into darkness". But then, I never liked "Space seed" :-(

Into Beyond, the interaction between Spock and Bones made me smile. And remember TOS...
miwahni: ST Star I steer bymiwahni on November 29th, 2016 11:11 am (UTC)
"Space Seed" was one of the episodes that I found really disturbing; I could well imagine something like the Eugenics Wars occurring. I did enjoy the original Khan movie, and I liked Into Darkness, (although not enough actual plot, I thought) but it didn't feel as authentic as this most recent movie.
Merlin Pendragon: Ils sont fous ces Romainsmrlnpndrgn on November 29th, 2016 12:54 pm (UTC)
I could well imagine something like the Eugenics Wars occurring.

I might be completely jaded, but that was not what bugged me.
A French priest once wrote : "Ou il y a des hommes, il y a de l'hommerie" - Where there are men, men-like things will happen.
Meaning war and conflict and stuff. Note that men, in the context, means both sexes.

No, what bugged me? The woman who betrayed her oath to Starfleet, abandoned her job and her family and friends to follow a man.
:-(

That trope always made me see red...
miwahni: ST Whutmiwahni on December 8th, 2016 11:32 am (UTC)
I can remember watching that ep for the first time and just shaking my head at that - what, give up the Enterprise and the universe for some dick of a man that thinks he's god's gift? Too young to realise that was how women were expected to behave, back then. Remember the tv show "Green Acres"? That line in the theme song - where he wants to go live on a farm, but she wants to stay in New York - "You are my wife"! he sings, to which she replies "goodbye, city life!" Urgh.
Merlin Pendragon: Childhood heroesmrlnpndrgn on December 8th, 2016 12:46 pm (UTC)
Remember the tv show "Green Acres"? That line in the theme song - where he wants to go live on a farm, but she wants to stay in New York - "You are my wife"! he sings, to which she replies "goodbye, city life!"

Can't say that I remember that one (the song, I mean; the show, I do remember, alas).
But then they might have changed the words. Since I only saw that show in French.

When I was too young to know any better :-/